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09年奥嫂和13韦波总决赛对比！到底哪支球队是超级球队？

2023-10-21 17:30:01 来源：直播8

09年奥嫂和13韦波总决赛对比！到底哪支球队是超级球队？

09年奥嫂和13韦波总决赛对比！到底哪支球队是超级球队？(1)

昨天凌晨，美自媒体Uncovering the Truth晒出2009年总决赛奥多姆和加索尔合计数据与2013年总决赛韦德和波什合计数据对比。

2009年总决赛：加索尔场均18.6分9.2篮板2.2助攻0.8抢断1.8盖帽，命中率60%

奥多姆场均13.4分7.8篮板0.8助攻1抢断1盖帽，命中率54.2%。

2013年总决赛：韦德场均19.6分4篮板4.6助攻1.9抢断1.3盖帽，命中率47.6%

波什场均11.9分8.9篮板2.1助攻1.9抢断1.6盖帽，命中率46.2%。

数据表明，奥嫂组合2009年总决赛场均32分17篮板3助攻，命中率57.4%；

韦波组合2013年总决赛场均31.5分12.9篮板6.7助攻，命中率47.1%。

显然奥嫂组合的数据表现更好。引来热议，一起来看看球迷如何评论！

09年奥嫂和13韦波总决赛对比！到底哪支球队是超级球队？(2)

09年奥嫂和13韦波总决赛对比！到底哪支球队是超级球队？(3)

2011 finals Wade Bosh:PPG 45.5 RPG 14.3 APG 6.2 EFG 50.3%

2010 finals Gasol Odom: PPG 26.2 RPG 18.3 APG 5.0 EFG 48.5%

See what I did there. You are a clickbait cherry picking brown noser to suit your narratives.

2011年总决赛韦德-波什：场均45.5分14.3篮板6.2助攻，有效投篮命中率50.3%

2010年总决赛加索尔-奥多姆：场均26.2分18.3篮板5助攻，有效投篮命中率48.5%

看我做了什么，你就是一个为了迎合自己的叙事而偷梁换柱的人。

So they weren't. Superteam in 2013?

Yes or No?

I love how you say I cherry pick while you are doing the exact same thing.

What are you doing by using 2011?

Pushing your narrative right?

所以他们在2013年不是超级球队？是还是不是？我喜欢你说我偷换概念，而你却在做同样的事情。你用2011年的数据做什么？证明你的叙述吗？

To answer the question, let’s look at career numbers of these athletes. The question is why is one considered a super team and the other is not. Out of these 4 players 1 is considered in the top 75. Kobe wins this one.

要回答这个问题，让我们来看看这些球员的职业生涯数据，问题是为什么一个被认为是超级球队，而另一个却不是。在这4名球员中，有1人被认为是75大球员。科比胜出。

09年奥嫂和13韦波总决赛对比！到底哪支球队是超级球队？(4)

Simple answer: bc ppl hate Lebron and just want to discredit him in anyway. That’s why. Plain and simple

答案很简单：因为人们黑勒布朗，无论如何都想诋毁他。这就是原因。简单明了。

lebron's superteams become less super because he takes too many shots

勒布朗的超级球队变得不那么超级，因为他出手太多了。

Don’t forget

Fisher/Ariza in 2009 Finals：22.0 PPG 9.0 RPG 3.4 APG 3.0 SPG 0.2 BPG 1.6 TO PG

Allen/Chalmers in 2013 Finals：21.2 PPG 5.0 RPG 3.7 APG 0.8 SPG 0.0 BPG 3.9 TO PG

不要忘记。

2009年总决赛中的费舍尔+阿里扎：场均22分9篮板3.4助攻3抢断0.2盖帽1.6失误。

2013 年总决赛中的雷阿伦+查莫斯：场均21.2分5篮板3.7助攻0.8抢断3.9失误。

09年奥嫂和13韦波总决赛对比！到底哪支球队是超级球队？(5)

They care more about names than actual performance and production

他们更在乎的是球员名气，而不是实际表现和数据产量。

Don’t you know bro? Your name means more than production! Plus, Kobe bit his jersey and made a lot of mean faces, so therefore, he had less help

你不知道吗？你的名气比数据产量更有意义！另外，科比咬了他的球衣，还做了很多凶恶的表情，因此，他的帮手更少了。

Even tho Andrew Bynum didn't played well in the playoffs he was on that Lakers team too and was considered a top 5 center in the league at the time.

尽管安德鲁-拜纳姆在季后赛中打得并不好，但他也在那支湖人队中，而且当时被认为是联盟前五的中锋。

09年奥嫂和13韦波总决赛对比！到底哪支球队是超级球队？(6)

Buddy really trying to argue that Pau Gasol & Lamar Odom were on the same level as Dwayne Wade & Chris Bosh.

兄弟真的想说保罗-加索尔和拉玛尔-奥多姆与德维恩-韦德和克里斯-波什处于同一水平。

Just because Brons kills his teammates stats doesn’t mean they aren’t a super team. Bosh was at 24/10 before Bron. Wade was at 30ppg. Lamar has never even been 18ppg and Gasol was at 20ppg twice in his entire career.

仅仅是因为詹姆斯杀死队友的数据并不意味着他们不是一支超级球队，波什来来詹姆斯身边之前的场均数据是24+10，韦德场均 30 分。奥多姆甚至从未达到过场均18分的水准，而加索尔在整个职业生涯中两次达到场均得分20+。

Wade bosh both said it was a super team.

韦德和波什都说这是一支超级球队。

Odom in the hall of fame ?

奥多姆入选名人堂了吗？

09年奥嫂和13韦波总决赛对比！到底哪支球队是超级球队？(7)

Two guys stepped up and overachieved when it mattered most (Lakers) and two guys underperformed when it mattered most (Heat). You can’t seriously be putting these pairs in the same conversation.

湖人二人组在最关键的时候挺身而出、超额完成任务，热火二人组在最关键的时候表现不佳，你不能把这两个人放在一起讨论。

Because Odom has never been the “guy” on any team bosh & Wade were them before joining with bron(bosh didn’t win no chip) but he was the man in tdot

因为奥多姆从来都不是任何球队的 "老大"，波什和韦德在加盟詹姆斯之前就是他们球队的 "老大"（波什没有赢得任何总冠军），但他是猛龙的老大。

09年奥嫂和13韦波总决赛对比！到底哪支球队是超级球队？(8)

Thag Laker team was great & we should thank Shaq kus without him they dont get Gasol & Odom = Kobe couldnt win without Shaqs help

湖人队非常棒，我们应该感谢奥尼尔。因为没有他，他们就没有加索尔和奥多姆 = 大破没有奥尼尔的帮助，科比不可能赢球。

09年奥嫂和13韦波总决赛对比！到底哪支球队是超级球队？(9)

OK maybe because Chris Bosh was 11 time All-Star and Odom was never an all-star

The numbers look like that, because kobe did not take away from his teammates, and didn’t try to play every position

Bron had Bosh go from most of his shot attempts inside paint into long 2s nd 3s

好吧，也许是因为克里斯-波什曾 11 次入选全明星，而奥多姆从未入选过全明星。

数据看起来如此，是因为科比没有占用队友的时间，也没有尝试打每个位置

詹姆斯让波什从大部分在油漆区内的投篮出手变成了远距离两分和三分。

2011 nba finals 08 nba finals

Wade 27 7 5. Kobe 25 5 5

Bosh 19 7 1. Pau 15 10 3

Bron 18 7 7 Odom 14 9 3

Mario 12 3 4 Fisher 11 2 3

Y’all logic with sports is getting embarrassing at this point..

Now which was a super team?

2011年NBA总决赛：韦德场均27+7+7，波什场均19+7+1，詹姆斯场均18+7+7，查尔莫斯场均12+3+4。

08年NBA总决赛：科比场均25+5+5，加索尔场均15+10+3，奥多姆场均14+9+3，费舍尔场均11+2+3。

在这一点上，你们的体育逻辑越来越令人尴尬了......现在哪个是超级球队？

09年奥嫂和13韦波总决赛对比！到底哪支球队是超级球队？(10)

Pau never ever got a single MVP vote in his whole career so never finished Top 15. Wade was still 10th in MVP voting in 2013. That shows Kobe carried his teams after Shaq, he didn't have any Top 15 player or any player capable of getting an MVP vote (Even Bosh came 7th once).

保罗-加索尔整个职业生涯从未获得过一张MVP选票，因此从未进入过MVP前15名。韦德在2013年的MVP投票中仍然排名第10。这说明在奥尼尔之后，科比带领他的球队，他没有任何排名前15的球员或任何有能力获得MVP票选的球员（即使波什也曾获得过7票）。

Why didn’t you use Jordan’s teammates?

为什么不用乔丹的队友数据？

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